Riv, I won't say I'm glad you're having some of the same problems, but misery does love company. ;) I'm somewhat disappointed with Carrara. Seems like they added a lot of pizazz and little improvements and took away the features that worked with RDS. sigh ummm...that's not my model, that's Victoria's skirt I used as an example. :/ Guess I should have given credit. Though I do make clothing. Free items are Uthena's dress, Victoria's long dress, and Boots for Michael. Purchasable items are at Daz. Thanks for the input.