@ RorrKonn... Actually I did mention Carrara earlier, although that's not as fancy as the apps you've mentioned. One thing that puzzles me, and this may be just an artistic perspective, is why more people that use poser don't make their own props and such... I can understand complex figures... but just simple things. I mean, I can upload the most basic poser prop to the free stuff and it will be downloaded 100's of times. Why don't people just get a copy of Wings and make such things themselves? Alright, sorry about changing the subject. Back to that Genesis thingy.