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Subject: rendering service for Poser ?


niserin ( ) posted Thu, 16 August 2012 at 4:44 PM · edited Wed, 26 February 2025 at 6:07 PM

Hi,

From time to time I need to render some ultra high resolution pictures (usually containg multiple reflections etc). 

I have a powerful computer but it is not enough. Even with lower rendering settings it takes about 5 hours to get a 5000x5000 px picture.

Do you know of any Poser compatible rendering service on the web ?

Thanks,

Michal


Medzinatar ( ) posted Thu, 16 August 2012 at 5:07 PM

To the best of my knowledge, there are no Poser rendering services due to a number of legal issues.



markschum ( ) posted Fri, 17 August 2012 at 12:00 AM

you can try searching for render farms . Poser has licensing issues which a render farm service would have to overcome. The render farms i know of are aimed at commercial users who can afford the costs.

 


CyberDream ( ) posted Fri, 17 August 2012 at 1:03 AM

I'm assuming you must have already done a search (google or otherwise) for Poser render farms.
Besides the licensing issues with Poser, the DAZ EULA doesn't look kindly on people uploading their models and textures to sites with unknown security.

Assuming you have no content issues, you might try exporting your scene as Luxrender compatible.  From what you have disclosed about your scene,
a typical render farm would charge about 15-20 €.

There is a cooperative site, Vswarm, for Blender and Luxrender purposes, but they have a resolution limit of 4Mp (e.g., 2000 x 2000 pixels)

 


niserin ( ) posted Fri, 17 August 2012 at 5:32 AM

Ok, thank you for your helpful answers.

Seems I'm going to stick with my current workflow.


aRtBee ( ) posted Fri, 17 August 2012 at 10:36 AM

I'm not familiar with your PC specs nor with your OS and poser versions.

I render 5000x7000 hiquality regurlarly. I tend to use the PoserPro Render in Queue and render at the background, overnight and when I'm out at the office.

Poser cannot split a single image over multiple machines, it handles one image / animation frame per machine. It will be very hard and costly to find render "cows" which meet your own PC spec.

Perhaps my tutorial pages http://www.book.artbeeweb.nl/?p=190 and on might offer some help and background info on this matter.

- - - - - 

Usually I'm wrong. But to be effective and efficient, I don't need to be correct or accurate.

visit www.aRtBeeWeb.nl (works) or Missing Manuals (tutorials & reviews) - both need an update though


niserin ( ) posted Mon, 20 August 2012 at 12:46 PM

aRtBee - I'm gonna catch up on this ! Seems like a very useful stuff. Thanks !


dlqx ( ) posted Thu, 23 August 2012 at 2:21 PM

Did you thought to rent servers on demand? Preparing an systems image and run it there? Charged by time spent and after finishing you can freeze the system.

It's not so cheap, but very flexible and I think when your doing such high-resolution render then it's for business.

There's only one issue, you could violate license agreement with outsourcing an image containing Windows + Poser + Firefly. 

Did you use Firefly or other renderer?


niserin ( ) posted Thu, 23 August 2012 at 3:13 PM

dlqx - FireFly ..


dlqx ( ) posted Fri, 24 August 2012 at 3:50 AM

Attached Link: LuxRenderer

Hello niserin,   with firefly you could run into licensing trouble. So far I've been unable to find the End User License Agreement on the Internet and on Smith Micros Website. I'll write them asking if they can send me a copy via e-mail.

I guess you can't run it on UN*X-alike systems, like BSD or Linux. So you'll have to get an additional license for Windows.

btw this high-res renderings're for business purpose, are they?

In general I'm thinking since months to built myself a little rendering cluster and once in the long run to establish such rendering service over the internet, you've asked for. So far I checked and working with Lux, 3Delight and to some degree Octane. All of them you can access and run via SSH (with forwarded X), when they don't offer server/client-capabilities. With Firefly I think this won't be possible, though Smith micro writes something about network rendering queues in the features list. I'll check that further, soon.

Bottom line: Hope that helps you a little bit and when you've got some spare time take a look at Lux. With it you can render scenes from Poser via Pose2Lux Script and in this fall also with Reality 3. Then you can outsource these high-res rendering you're doing to spare PCs, running 24/7.

Referring to renting servers I know of one good provider which I used. It's domainfactory, based in Germany and the product is called jiffybox. I don't know of an US-provider, I heard that rackspace is offering on-demand servers.


niserin ( ) posted Fri, 24 August 2012 at 6:05 PM

dlqx - I tried LuxRenderer and this whole proccess is too complicated for me, I mean I don't have time to learn this stuff.

I use Poser Pro 2012 but I'd say I'm rather new to 3d.

Sometimes I just need to generate some not visually complicated (but CPU demanding) pictures and I am on the deadlines, so if you one day overcome all those licencing issues and set up an 'user friendly' render cow and for Poser, drop me a line ;).

Thanks!


aRtBee ( ) posted Sat, 25 August 2012 at 1:42 AM

trust me, I sorted it all out and I'm not talking from theory.

  • next to paying for CPU time, you pay for storage / subscription as well, usually a monthly fee. When paying for CPU, you'll need the high-speed high-RAM options.
  • there is no licencing issue, you just need Queuemanager on the other machines even when you're using spare capacity in your home / office environment. Just configure the machines to launch QM at boottime, and you're there. QM and PoserPro need to be the same versions (like 2012SR3)
  • the rendercow handles complete images / frames only, no image parts. So actually external network rendering pays for animations, for images it's far more profitable to run them in the background of your own machine
  • it's far from easy to establish a good network connection with the external machines, there are some threads over here from people struggling with that. It's protocols, virtual machines and the like. Non-professional network-admins might need some asperines in this area.
  • transport time will kill you. You're limited by your ADSL upload (!) speeds, and a decent Poser scene all included (textures!) worth the trouble takes about an hour to upload to the external rendernode
    Eg: 300MBytes @ 1Mbit/sec = 3000 sec = 50mins. Each frame might then take 50 mins upload+10 mins rendertime. Your external node then renders 1 frame / hour and you will pay all of it.
    You won't have this issue in your 1Gbit/sec home /office LAN.
  • it's far more profitable to buy a high-CPU high-RAM low disk low video system running the rendernode and hook it up to your home LAN.
    Or buy a high end machine, and render in queue / background utilizing the CPU you payed for to the max.

all the best
aRtBee

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Usually I'm wrong. But to be effective and efficient, I don't need to be correct or accurate.

visit www.aRtBeeWeb.nl (works) or Missing Manuals (tutorials & reviews) - both need an update though


niserin ( ) posted Sat, 25 August 2012 at 7:39 AM

Btw, I have 12 GB Ram. How to make the Firefly use all of it ?


millighost ( ) posted Sat, 25 August 2012 at 8:05 AM

Rendering at amazon is an option; basically it works, but not completely affordless. There was a thread with some details:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2846755


Medzinatar ( ) posted Sat, 25 August 2012 at 10:09 AM

Quote - Btw, I have 12 GB Ram. How to make the Firefly use all of it ?

To use RAM over 3 GB, you must have 64 bit operating system plus the 64 bit version of Poser.

The scene also needs to have enough objects and textures to require that much memory.



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thanks!

Sounds cool. But I must admit to being deeply confused by the offer on the site:

"Sign up for $20 free trial"


PoserPro 2014, PS CS5.5 Ext, Nikon D300. Win 8, i7-4770 @ 3.4 GHz, AMD Radeon 8570, 12 GB RAM.


niserin ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 10:54 AM

Lol, excatly.

Please restrain yourself from pasting such obvious ads, especially if it is not relevant.


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