I'm hardly surprised,  usual suspects, usual pissing contests.  can we stop fighting over daz and genesis long enough to stay on the topic of subdivision and poser.. as is the topic of the thread.  I get that genesis naturally plays into this discussion, but neither its quality as a mesh or cage or whatever we want to call it, nor daz's intentions in regards to it do.  The only mention of genesis that really belongs in this thread is how Snarlys cool new gift to the community affects the use of genesis in poser and what limits there may or may not be to its application.