Quote - ok that doesnt adress the whole specular issue.i was wondering if there is a way to trick say the blinn node etc to maybe come up with a better shine? just throwing about ideas

In general? No.

As soon as there are two or more light sources, you can't do any sort of tricks because you don't know anything in the nodes about where those are, where the camera is, etc. This is basic shader 101 stuff that has to be built into Poser nodes because Poser doesn't let me write any shader algorithms. It only lets me snap together the ones it offers.

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