7: now do the same for the side view as you did the front check in perspective view to see that it is going good you should easily be able to see where youll need to start adding lines if you started with a 10 x 10 mesh like me this is good and will build the thought process on how the lines should go this is all i have time to post for nopw and is a good resting point to study your net and see what youd like to move around and where could use more polys for detail until tomorow thanks eveyone anyone wanting to add to what ive done so far is bothe free to and welcome to Regards Trav