Man!!! thank you so much Ninahalo5. I'd been asking around on several diferent forums and you were the only person that replied. I'm for sure gonna get Poser 2012 Pro now, as it seems to be better than DAZ for animation. I did download the free version of DAZ on my Mac and I was impressed with the genesis creation features (I looked at the additional creation packages for more money, it looks very indepth). Does Poser have a similar creation process? Do Poser character options look as good as DAZ? Are Daz caracters able to load in Poser? If not all of them, wich versions? That link you included looks perfect for what im trying to get started with thankx again.