Gotta disagree with ya there, Nance. I've seen folks whittle away with Morph targets for weeks without capturing the look they want. Hell, I've done it myself. No matter how much you whittle away on that damn Poser male dork, it's harder than Chinese algebra to make it look like an actual person. It's probably easier with the female model, if only because she doesn't look as much a dork. I personally spent weeks and weeks trying to make one look like a specific character, and it was a pure-dee case of extreme futility...until the lightbulb lit over my head, and I abandoned the morph targets and opened up my paint prog and started working that texture. I'm not saying not to chuck using facial morphs, I'm just saying that texturing is of EQUAL importance if you want to make a Poser figure look like an actual person.