Quote - Is this what he needs to look like? 

Last time I applied the morphs to an injected M4 who already had the Morphs ++ injected.  this time I just applied the morphs to a standard M4.

His arms still look a bit beefy to me. Is that how they are meant to look.

Love esther

Yes, keep in mind it's still has to fit M4's clothing and at the time to do the scaling I wanted to do would work in DS and not in Poser. Santo has the size scaling options that wouldn't break in Poser 7+ as well as some custom shapes.

I redid him for M5 and he's a lot more closer to a young adult, including a revised texture that has less body hair, custom bodies and scaling.

WildDesign's collegiate outfit (sold here) used Ashley as a base to include those extra morphs from morphs++ for the shapes that aren't normally included.