Quote - Have taken time off of playing around with ACSEL to focus on other areas of my rendering that need polishing.  I have both hampton hair and dublin so will re-download the shaders(everything got whacked when I rebuilt my system last month) and see if I can duplicate your issue KH.

Thanks!  I am on a total new install myself. This issue only started with 4.5.

Did you get your site mail I sent?

Edit to add:  The Hampton hair issue is intermittent.