With the Jacket and Shirt.  I kept running into issues with collision and smoothing with the jacket and shirt as seperate complete items, so I combined them and stripped out much of what became unecessary.  In this render, it's just the shirt collar and shirt front, the jacket still has lining in the front, but none in the back, ect.  Basically, the only geometry that exists is the geometry that's visible.  This way The shirt sleeves aren't coliding with the jacket sleeve lining and freaking out.

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