Actually I have spend some time at the Daz forum (without sun glasses) and find that the Daz people are very untechnical. There are some good administrators but they are tired and over-worked it seem wrong to bother the same guys time and again. No, if we want something to happen we have to do it ourselves. That is the hard lessen in the world! To find out is how to transfer material to Poser is the next thing. Lets put our back to it.