Mark@poser opened this issue on Oct 12, 2012 · 204 posts
Male_M3dia posted Tue, 16 October 2012 at 6:21 AM
Quote - I will play it - you are a genesis vendor, and as such, you do have a vested interest in genesis - suggesting that you are "just another customer and nothing more" is a bit much.
Well you play it incorrectly and unnecessarily. People play this card when they run out of valid arguments to give. So a saturation of mini skirts, school girl outfits, cop outfits, bras and panties for V4 made by others has to do with me being a vendor how again? Please keep your points together. Hope I made that very clear.
Quote - Much like Apollo Maximus or Miki, Genesis is a niche character - it hasn't replaced Gen4 and I don't think that will happen anytime soon, because the vendors outside of those who sell at DAZ haven't embraced it. Here at Rosity, there are what, 3 genesis clothing content vendors? I see Sickleyield, Dzheng, and Oskarsson. As far as characters, most genesis characters seem to come with a Gen4 character also.
You know, I heard this same argument when Genesis came out, yet it ended up taking most of the new characters and clothing in the DAZ store.... so much it was a created firestorms on the various forums.... many that you were involved in...
Now that it's in poser, it seems you shifted your arguments again like you'll never be satisfied and that's fine. You have an emotional attachment to this whole subject. However the subject "Can someone unemotionally state the advantages of Genesis over V4/M4 in Poser?", so if you can't do that, especially throwing an "you're a genesis vendor" attack at me for no reason, then perhaps you should find another topic discuss until you can do as the OP asked. ;)
Quote - DSON for Poser could possibly prime the pump as far as customer demand, but the vendors have yet to embrace it. That may change if DAZ ever gets it's act together with respect to documentation, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
OK, but the importer has been out less than a week, and I'm sure vendors are busy updating their products so Poser users can use them, or taking time to find out how to create items for it.
Quote - DAZ doesn't appear to have gotten much documetation completed in the last 15 months or so.
But how does this relate to the emotional advantages of genesis over V4/M4? It doesn't. Sounds like an app war comment to me?
Quote - As a customer, I can see a use for genesis, if Dimension3D gets his Genesis Generation X and his Gen3 add-on pack working in Poser. Or if Oskarsson's Preteens for Genesis work with the DSON importer.
Well that's up to the vendors, but have nothing to do with with the topic. You're being emotional again. ;)
Quote - The only thing I see genesis being good for is filling in the missing Gen3 characters (The YT's and David). I don't do fantasy or portraits, so what little content is available isn't much use.
Unfortuately, if you want content for young adults you probably going to have to work for it and use a little creativity. It's a v4 world so you have to borrow clothes from other figures. I've been able to clothe some of my figures by taking clothes from other figures not supported by cross dresser and scale and resize them against genesis in DS, the export the obj, adjust the cloth in zbrush then rig the result. But then I can use that for my figures and now create the companion files so i can use that result in Poser in case I want to render there.
But genesis does allow you to fill in the gaps that Gen4 left open.