I agree with Jeff. The Techi Forum has it's own merits. We do tend to have a lot of threads on the Poser Forum that at times are nothing more than just a display of our work asking, hey, what do you think?, or hey, I want some compliments or opinions?, or just your general "joke" for the day, wink. The techi place is for info, nothing more, nothing less. It's a great place to go to get some quick, solid, serious answers without having to dig through the many non-info remarks or threads. I hope this helps? Radart:)