Sorry for the term "childrens scrawlings" there, fran. I should have used a different term. anyway, it looks alot better than it did initially. I must still be living in the, ah nevermind. By the way, I was looking at some of your doll designs for your animation project, I hope that you don't mind that I posted them... are you going to rig all of these characters in poser or are you planning on using some other software to complete your project?