Its not working and really to hard to mess around with, it is just a forum so i will ask here any questions related to outrigger etc.

After trying to answer the question many times I was finally told I had run out of attempts and should try again later, I have to laugh really how hard is it join a forum.

poserplace is not for me I guess, thanks very much for the help Bill. 

cheers Rowlando

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