randym77 I like that, it's like Repunzel hehe... I also like that with dynamic it responds to gravity. On a side note, I tend to like the glossy look but sometimes it doesn't respond well with all hairstyles so sometimes I use glossy sometimes I use a very light sheen... Also it's funny how my hair (and a few of my friends and family's hair) is not that shiny, I mean I have to really overload my hair with conditioner and use that stuff that comes with hair dye to get mine to look anywhere near what Poser dynamic hair looks like sometimes, lol. So I guess I (and a lot of others) will have to keep experimenting til I get a cross between real and desirable, hehe...