hehe and why I pretty much quit posting here. TBH I decided not to purchase the new Vicky, Mike, and genesis. Partly because it would mean sinking alot of money into it that i dont really wish to spend, partly because I bought Vue and spend most of my graphics time learning/playing there, and partly because I also didnt want to spend the time with learning/settingup DS or a new Poser. Poser has always been a love/hate relationship, when it worked it was beautifull but the last two versions for me anyway weren`t good softwares. I came onboard with V3 and have spent a ton of money on V4 and the Ms...dont really wish to revisit. Lol if I ever change my mind you will all prolly be on V6...anyway enjoy and keep the art comin...