if I create a freeform (or mesh) in rds, group the elements together, export in obj, then write a phi file , run the converter and I get a poseable prop...right ? So if the names of the elements in the group match the poser elements of a figure that would enable the conform option ?, forgive me if this sounds dum, but the cr2 file, that does what for me ? that is just the compiled phi file right. So a prop would not have that file beacuse it has no phi file right ????? again thanks for ALL your help and your time Fleanbilly