this is one of those debates where there is no wrong and no right answer, no winner nor no loser, it would be singularly stupid and wrong of me to sabotage the debate by personally insulting other posters, so i didn't.  i am more interested in other peoples perceptions than any egocentric desire to come out on top..........

I do enjoy a good discussion.........

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