i'm not sure what you mean Vilters, are you saying that using poser/ds figures it is impossible to get anywhere a realistic human model, or that only by creating a figure from scratch can anyone hope to achieve anything near "realism". I don't know whether I have stated my case definitively enough, i am neither pro nor anti realism, I appreciate the effort that goes into creating a mesh model such as the Stan figure I eluded to in the first post but certainly don't think that every cg artsit should be trying to emulate it or their work is somehow diminished becuase their renders aren't realistic, yet trying to achieve a degree of realism sometimes stretches the mind. I can remember a post you were an active and really positive contributor to, a post I submitted last year about trying to achieve the realistic impression of a figure walking through dynamic hair grass. Your solution to use an inverted cone to create the collision was inspired and led to some great results. So all I'm saying is that realism or the attempt to create realism of a close approximation of it makes for a more interesting life. Would SSS, EZSkin, VSS , BB's car shaders, EZ Metals, the list is not exhaustive, have been worked on if it were not for the desire to create realistic skin metal paint shaders, would the cloth room be there if there were not a desire to create realistic clothing fits for stills and animation, heck there has even recently been a great thread on dynamic hair where people have been trying to achieve realistic looking  hair.

So as much as realism is or isnt a dirty word, the impossible dream, many people seek to achieve it. As to the success of the results, then that is for others to judge. Once again, i am neither an advocate for nor condemner of said form, I just appreciate it when it is done well.

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