Thanks everyone for the replies, I'm getting an education here.

SamTherapy wrote - Snarly's is for Poser 9 and up, not sure about VSS. I wonder if there is a way to do something similiar with Poser 7.

markschum - I'll try searching that way, thanks! I'll also try using a skin tone with the diffuse setting. I think I saw a tutorial the other day for something like that when I was going through the tutorial archives. As far as skin tones, what I am hoping for is just to make a decent skin that doesn't have to look real but also doesn't look like a shiny plastic doll

NanetteTredoux - thanks for those suggestions, I had a look at them - very nice and the price is certainly right. And thanks for the heads up about your tiling textures, I'll snag them today and see what I can play around and come up with.

I've always respected the talent of the artists that make goodies for Poser, but delving into all this has made that shoot up several levels. I feel bad that I make use of other's freebies and never have one to offer. Maybe I can make something after a lot of practice that some one else could actually use. (it could happen - maybe!) I got my funky old aiptek tablet set up last night and it still works so miracles really do occur! (I did notice it needs a bit more electrical tape its - coming apart again, lol)