Thanks for the great reply. I'm sorry I made you type all that. No need to look it up just now - maybe we can revisit it later when I get brave enough to try for some fog! Its a wonderful effect. I'm still playing with my image, not at all sure about the color of the lighting and the dress. I snagged her a new dress texture at daz last night and will re-render it today and see. This is definitely the most complicated render I ever attempted. Couldn't have accomplished it without the help I got right here.