Thanks Xena!- I aught to mention that if you see the pics on the San Francisco Hair page, that realy is Vickie II, not SMV or SMMV, I just twisted them dials, and I think a large part of the reason she looks so good is the very, very nice Cake1 textures I used, Jane and Lucie. She is wearing Supermodel Vickie's Bikini top though, as she didn't like any of the regular Vicki stuff I had laying around. And she had a heck of a time getting it on, too!