Thanks all so much.  Joe, that's a wonderful explanation of tries and poles.  Thank you!

That car also saxon is a wonderful illustration of where my problems seem to lie.  Think I will be starting the BMW over and using the larger scale planes, and go from there. 

I hear yah matty -- that's also a good suggestion on doing things "Seperately".   Didn't even think of that until you said it.  After I'm sure I would have been, what am I going to do now??????

 

 

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