Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Prices

dhawk0948 opened this issue on Feb 20, 2013 · 68 posts


aeilkema posted Thu, 21 February 2013 at 12:47 AM

Yes, prices have gone up at various sites. Being a vendor, I always keep an eye on prices and what they do at various websites. Price have gone up here, because of a new policy and it depends on the content sold how much the price has been raised. That is not a vendors choice, that is Rendo's choice and imo it's a bad one.

 

Prices at the other big sites have gone up as well, RDNA has seen a slight increase, while DAZ has raised prices by 10-25%. I've seen items their priced at such prices that I wonder if even anyone wants to pay those.

 

At the other end, I've noticed that while price go up, you get less bang for your money. A lot of venders do include less then they used to in a product. Also what I see a lot fo top vendors do is making variations on content. Same base, but 2-3 variations clearly derived from the same base. Everything is slowly starting to look the same, even in a vendors catalog. It used to be if I want a certain clothing item, I could pick 10-15 vendors and make my choice. Now I can pick 5-10 vendors, but each of them will have 2-3 items that look about the same. I'm not sure if that's a wise move.

 

Then there's quality, on the whole, it's getting less. There used to be a rise in quality, now there slowly is a decline.

 

Combine all these factors and add a saturated market to it and it's no wonder vendors don't sell as much as they do. The main thing is that while there are many things vendors could make that haven't been done before, we mostly only see the same things released we've seen before. A lot of vendors have lost creativity and due to the way the market used to work, they've become lazy. Now things are changing and they can't seem to get out of the mode they're in. Even when I see new vendors appear, I see them creating what has been done a million times before. With a few exceptions of course.

 

Lastly there's the economy, but you can't really blame that one for all of the above problems and to be honest, the economy has been bad for about 3 years now.

 

In short..... I pay more for less, get less quality and I've got everything that's being released in my runtimes already..... 10's of times.... so why in the world would I buy it at all?

 

But..... The last and single biggest issue is and many vendors are not realising that or taking it into account is that the poser user base is slowly but surely decreasing. It's not growing as it used to be and with the arrival of DS and Genesis, the whole scene has changed. There is no lack of new Poser figures, a few excellent ones have been released, but they're just not as versatile as Genesis is. Some of the are really nice, but they lack the innovation Poser users are looking for. What Poser needs to survive is either having Genesis working in Poser without the need of some plugin that's hit and miss or a new figure that's about the same as Genesis is. Lookinmg at the history of Poser, the latter ain't going to happen, all that Poser every gives us are terrible looking figures. Sorry to say so, time to fire all these modelers and get a good one, but with the current economy, that's not going to happen.

 

There is still a market for current poser figures, but it's not what it used to be. Instead of vendors massively surrporting a nwelt released poser figure, they keep on doing what they're doing and slowly but surely everyone looses out. There needs to be a radical change of thinking if the poser vendors making clothing, hair, textures and so on want to survive. Stop whining about how Genesis destroys the market..... stop releasing stuff for V4/V5, we've seen it all before and start supporting figures like My Michelle (that one comes to mind now) instead. For goodness sake take a chance..... you need to break out of the comfort zone..... get creative again.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk