If I understand this correctly Poser users running on Linux have normally gotten their flash support for Posers' library through the Adobe Flash install that ran with Mozilla Firefox but if I read this correctly is looks like Adobe has pulled that surpport from Linux now. I'm wondering if this means our days of using Poser are over on Linux.

Am I reading this Adobe anouncement correctly?

http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html

I can't get Poser to run in Linux, even with WINE...how are YOU doing it? LOL

Laurie

When it comes to "wine" I've noticed some versions work and others don't. It comes and goes so I've gotten used to using "apt-get install" using wine version numbers untill I hit the one that works. This last one I was happy with, I thnk, was Wine 1.0RC or Wine 1.01RC on Ubuntu 11.something. I'd look it up but the Linux computer went toes up a few months ago. I'm prepairing to build another computer, it's why I was looking up information on the web when I found the Adobe anouncement. Now I'm not sure what I'm going to do.

You could always use a real OS. ;)

runs  

Quote - You could always use a real OS. ;)

runs  

I'll get ya for that. LOL

Laurie

Quote - You could always use a real OS. ;)

runs  

That leaves just Apple OSX then. =P

• runs also *

Bwaaahahahaha

Laurie

Apple OSx is base on Unix like Linux and I believe Macs can't use Flash either so there is your challenge, get the Mac version to run on Linux....... or get a real OS

Quote - If I understand this correctly Poser users running on Linux have normally gotten their flash support for Posers' library through the Adobe Flash install that ran with Mozilla Firefox but if I read this correctly is looks like Adobe has pulled that surpport from Linux now. I'm wondering if this means our days of using Poser are over on Linux.

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I never got flash to work in wine. As for the library however, there is here in the marketplace a product "XL" by dimension3d, and at runtimedna.com there is "Shaderworks Library Manager" by Semidieu, both are based on python instead of flash and work with wine.

Good and if only I could get Poser itself to work. LOL

Laurie

"Apple OSx is base on Unix like Linux and I believe Macs can't use Flash either so there is your challenge, get the Mac version to run on Linux....... or get a real OS"

What? who is this guy? this is the second post I've seen in a row where misinformation is being pulled from this individual's ASS.

Flash runs on Macintosh OS, Intel and pre Intel...

Quote - Good and if only I could get Poser itself to work. LOL

Laurie

In my experience it is a hit and miss with the wine versions (like mylemonblue wrote). 1.5.23 (32bit) works acceptable for me, but the last working version was 1.2.1 and between these i have tried practically every single update, but something always was wrong.

I have Flash on Linux, but Adobe is not providing a version higher than 11.2.

EDIT; I just discovered that's not strictly true; there is Flash 11.7 available for Chrome (and Chromium, of course) for Linux, but not for other Linux browsers...

OSX is indeed based on BSD UNIX, but it has a proprietary desktop shell and filesystem.  It and Windows both are at Flash version 11.7

I had Poser Pro 2010 workiing in Linux with the Library last year, but something changed in Wine and the Library no longer worked.  IIRC I installed Wine Gecko, the Windows version of Flash for 'Other Browsers', the MS Core fonts, and the MS Visual C runtimes.  Since I now have a real Windows box for Poser, I haven't played with it under Linux...

@ millighostWow, I didn't know Linux and wine would play ball with the alternative Libraries. Thank you.

@ WandW Right on with the MS Core fonts and MS Visual C runtimes. Those are a must.

From fucking reliable sources at BlenderArtist bitch or bastard as the case may be.  People I trust for tech info than here.  And what is the other info I pulled out of my ass?

Pbbbt. Clown.

jestmart, there's no call for that kind of talk.

primorge, sorry but to be honest, if you had simply pointed out what you perceived as bad information with a bit less negativity, i.e. without references to pulling from orifices, it might not have provoked an angry reaction.

You're right, of course, lmckenzie... I just saw something in another thread that was glaringly wrong and then I pop over to this thread and there it is again, just got irritated I guess. Apologies to all witnesses... and I was about to feel bad in regard to jestmart, but considering its reaction and how I deal with such hostility in the real world I'm afraid that it's irreconcilable. After all, saying that somebody pulled some incorrect information out of an orifice is a distinctly different thing than referring to an unknown individual, sight unseen, from a distinctly safe distance as a "bitch". Heh. Guess it's all very uncouth and such.

...But now I'm bored with the topic.

I am somewhat involved in the digital signage business, having been CTO of a DS company for a few years and I'm consulting for another one now. DS vendors heavily make use of inexpensive Linux boxen as players and the content heavily makes use of Flash. If Linux + Flash = dead, then an entire multi billion $ industry is going to heave. I don't believe it.

http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

http://lightspark.github.io/

I read not that Flash for Linux was gone, but that it would not be a standalone player. Instead it will be part of something called the Pepper API. I understand that it means you won't see it in browsers, but Poser never wanted a browser in there - it wants to use the Flash player directly as an API. This is exactly what Adobe is doing. So that would actually make it better. It would be a library technology component and you would not have to install or maintain it. That's if Poser continues to have the library implemented as a Flash app. It doesn't have to.

Poser Pro also has a second library option based on AIR, which is a cousin of Flash but is not Flash. I prefer the AIR version anyway. I like the library in its own window, not one of the managed child windows.

Quote - I read not that Flash for Linux was gone, but that it would not be a standalone player. Instead it will be part of something called the Pepper API. I understand that it means you won't see it in browsers, but Poser never wanted a browser in there - it wants to use the Flash player directly as an API. This is exactly what Adobe is doing. So that would actually make it better. It would be a library technology component and you would not have to install or maintain it. That's if Poser continues to have the library implemented as a Flash app. It doesn't have to.

As of last Spring Mozilla had no interest in supporting Pepper, and seemed to be gravitating towards Gnash.  I don't know if that has changed.  Obviously Google was interested, which is why there is up-to-date Flash in Chrome for Linux...

"What? who is this guy? this is the second post I've seen in a row where misinformation is being pulled from this individual's ASS."

"From fucking reliable sources at BlenderArtist bitch or bastard as the case may be.  People I trust for tech info than here.  And what is the other info I pulled out of my ass?"

I'd hate to close an otherwise productive thread because two people can't be civil to one another.

You got me, guys?

What he said...

AIR, now that you mention it, I've not tried a full 64bit Linux and wine combo. It'll be interesting to see if AIR will run on wine. There is also the Linux native version of AIR but it seems Adobe ended developement of that last year. There's a lot of good information here in this thread though. I guess it's just a matter now of getting things all together and seeing what works or not.