Quote - here's one with nodes. in fairness to OP, postpone any further discussion until he posts render of his reflection/IDL problem.

better method requires svl. math nodes to account for diffuse illum. from mesh lite IMVHO. skip clouds for now, make sure earth is lite emitter, invert spec mask, et al.

Sure, I don't want to hijack the thread any longer.

Thanks. I will work on this some more. Maybe start my own thread.

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