I got V4 with Carrara I believe...  Anyway I ended up finally getting it and decided last Summer to finally buy some clothing, fixes and misc. and finally see why V4 was so popular. I've tried to make a few characters with P4 male, Posette, Jessi, and lately Anastasia, Tyler and Miki.  There's something about V4 that I find daunting.  So many injections and fixes and stuff I've never really messed with much.  I guess I've always been afraid V4 figures will hit my system resources in ways I am totally unaccustomed to, though it's not likely that I'll be using more than one gen4 figure in a scene any time soon.