I like that a lot! But if it were clean, the feeling wouldnt be exactly the same. Its hard for me to explain why, though. Is it because over the years weve been conditioned to seeing that look as a part of B&W photography, especially older photos, or does it really touch a warm emotion deep inside? I knew an old DJ once who didnt like CDs when they first came out because he missed all the scratches and pops that he was used to with records. I often feel that some of the digital camera images I see are just a little too smooth or clean. I dont wanna feel like the old DJ, but I still like the film look better, especially B&W. And as for old photos, I tried to accomplish that look with another picture. Its called Wagon Wheels, and its in my gallery here at Renderosity. If you get a chance, check it out and let me know what you think. Thanks to you and picnic for your feedback. It really helps!