Quote - > Quote - If I want photo quality I use a camera. 

Riiiight, you just happen to have on hand real nude models with swords and an actual temple in your backyard so you can just run out and snap a photo? How do you photograph something that doesn't exist? The whole point of renders which look like photos is that you can create an illusion of reality.

The movie industry uses cameras all the time, but they also use CG when they want to include stuff which can't be photographed (or filmed) because it doesn't exist.

 

OK I apoligise if you think I was trying to be critical of all the 3d artists here, that was certainly not my aim. Yea, your right it was a flippant answer and I should have been more precise. 

I do accept your point and, as I do a great deal of Sci-Fi renders, that is clearly not possible with a camera but then I am not looking for photorealistic but more a 'believable' scene.  If someone does make a historic or future scene, or any non real world situation to be photorealistic it would be great and I would applaud the creator.  The fact is that almost all the renders I see where people are trying to be photorealistic are actually of people and with many my first question is why?

Then again as a member of a camera club for many years I know nude models are not really that scarce and neither are swords.  Temples are more difficult but I could use a stock photo or one of my own of from another field trip.  So if I wanted such a picture I might use the camera, fact is though I don't want such and image either photographic or rendered.

I also remember the time when I was dodging photos and adding clear skies to a picture taken on a dull day and that was using a darkroom and four dishes of chemicals.  It was a photo but was the image real  ?Any sort of image manipulation tool makes that seem childs play today so how many photos are real but I digress.

These days I spend more time doing renders than using the camera so I do understand what is possible with software and admire those that have the skills to take it to the limit.  I still enjoy photography though and often see a scene that I might be able to use in a render, usually as foreground peice or backdrop. 

In truth I guess my flippancy came from the fact that I dislike the idea of aiming for photo realism as a goal rather that what you are trying to say with a render.  That is just my view and each to thier own of course.

 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.