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Subject: The Challenge ( Auto Morph for P2014 Outfits )


gate ( ) posted Fri, 21 June 2013 at 7:10 PM · edited Sat, 23 November 2024 at 12:42 PM

So Here we are , a new Idea , some changes , and I assume this might be a Challenge for some of you , to see what we really are capable of doing to Improve the Abilities of Poser.
Some of you might already of realized some might not , that the Path to the fit outfits to the Morphs of the figure not necessary is the Fit Room of Poser 2014. 

The Challenge :
I made a INJ Script that will activate the Morphs in the Outfits to fallow the Morphs you Dile on the Doll . It activates the 4 conform options of the figure in one INJ file !
I Called it !! Fallow Me !!

Sure allot of you will ask now what is it what is it capable of ? but we come to this now .
this little script as soon it is Injected into the Clothing it will cause that the outfit will
stay tight on the skin
See the Sample:

I guess you will say I want it where can I get it , sure the Question is Justified.
but lets continue on how it will work before you can get the File.

First of all I want to thank ( A good Friend ) to have brought me to the Idea
Creating this Amazing script !!!
Lets Start !!
you will find an INJ And REM Pz2 File in this Package, so what will it do ??
actually not more then an existing hidden Option in Poser 2014 it will
cause that wen you have conformed an Outfit it will fallow the Figure
Morphs stay tight on the Skin , well as long as the Outfit has the same
Morphs. But this is actually no Problem.
To activate the feature just click on the INJ file after you conformed the
Outfit to the Figure ( And selected it ).then just start shaping the figure !!

If the Morph is not found in the Outfit what will you do ??

  1. Click the outfit
  2. Go to Top Panel Figure ->>> Copy Morphs From
  3. Choose the Morphs you want to add into the outfit.
    that's all the Morph will be added and will fallow as soon as
    you turn that dile on the Doll.

I suggest to in case you have a figure set up to create a full Body morph
this would be easier to locate and you don't have to copy unnecessary diles
into the outfit.

This inject Feature is actually Part of Poser 2014 but it takes more time
to set it up Manually , so I created a fast INJ file to activate the Necessary
feature in the Outfit, Lets say a little shortcut

I guess this will be just one of many Possible features for Poser
there are so many Ideas and so little time to create them .....
I hope this Package will bring you allot of fun and ease for your artistic
Creations.

....... So before you Download this feature as I mentioned it should be a Challenge not just I take it then
it will work , there is more to it ! as we can , or we could develop it further.
the Point is , sure it will fallow the Morphs , it will make your Life easier !! but it can be developed further.
the next step would be an other script !!
this script would have to be able to recognize the created custom morph in the Doll, to trans-fair it into the outfit
in combination with the one I will provide in a short moment .
so to be able to recognize changed Diles like .01 or -.01 then filter these and add them to the outfit for automated
Perfect fitting .Also to avoid selecting those out of an endless list manually. Merging the Possibility together into one command.
Alternatively a command like save morph as Obj --> inject Obj as Costume into Doll trans-fair new Custom to outfit
These are Just Samples!
It is just a Challenge as I said to develop that Feature Further . well also a Prestige question
who is capable of taking the next step , who will create this script first , who will get the Crown.

What will the Consequence be of such a feature ??
we would change the whole aspect of Outfit creation , no need to add so many Fit morphs into the outfit
Files would be smaller, using less resources of the application. further it could be integrated as a one click
feature into Poser so that even Beginners would be able to enjoy this amazing feature , without having to run
though thousands of tutorials to auto adapt the outfit to the dolls Moph's.

Why is it Free , Why a Challenge?
I have the script already since Poser 2014 came out , watching the development of things
after I saw how DS changed things the past weeks I thought we could do something with it
that makes Poser even more enjoyable , even better ( Well it is actually already all there )
but we can make it better . So it is Free to be able to develop it to say we did it , so that not one
alone gets the credit , but to say we Improved it together. the Challenge is are we able to
make the Idea possible , well where there is an idea reality is not far away.
so I hope there will be some of you willing to take this step and use the script for a further
Development , to share with all and give this feature some Future for our Creations .

this share is not intended to be that any claim the Idea as hes to make any profit
out of it in any future in any of hes Creations or Sold Products , keep in mind it is
for a good Purpose so that all might be able to profit on the Possibilities it may give.

I started the same thread at RDNA this Morning and thought that Renderosity Members would sure also have interest in this

thread at RDNA: 

http://forum.runtimedna.com/showthread.php?79956-A-NEW-CHALLENGE

Enough talk to download the Script ( INJ ) Copy the Link

http://filesmelt.com/dl/Fallow_Me_For_Poser2014_RDNA.zip


randym77 ( ) posted Fri, 21 June 2013 at 7:25 PM

Wow.  This sounds very promising.


3doutlaw ( ) posted Fri, 21 June 2013 at 9:13 PM

Hmmm...I am missing how this is different than conforming a clothing item to a figure.  When I conform an outfit to a figure, which has the utopian morph...and then dial in Utopian on the figure...the clothes follow it.

If the clothes don't have the morph, I use Morphing Clothes.  Maybe this saves people who purchased PP2014 from buying morphing clothes?


randym77 ( ) posted Fri, 21 June 2013 at 10:01 PM

I think the idea is to automate it.  So it will automatically find the morphs used and transfer just those and set them to match the figure.


TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Fri, 21 June 2013 at 10:36 PM

Isn't that what superconformers do already?

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gate ( ) posted Sat, 22 June 2013 at 4:04 AM

 

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Hmmm...I am missing how this is different than conforming a clothing item to a figure. When I conform an outfit to a figure, which has the utopian morph...and then dial in Utopian on the figure...the clothes follow it.

If the clothes don't have the morph, I use Morphing Clothes. Maybe this saves people who purchased PP2014 from buying morphing clothes?

Actually it does allot more then just add a Cosom Morph into the outfit , it will fallow the Morph , the animation used 4 - 5 costom morphs that are unusual usually not found in the outfit , to make the setup and animation it took 5 Min . the Question is not how does it work , but is it possible to Create a Py that recognizes the changed diles to transfair into the Outfit :)

*Quote: *

Isn't that what superconformers do already?

Superconformers is Limmited on certain Morphs , you get an ammount and not more can be used. It limmits you to use V4 . this feature does not have a Limitation on what Morphs are being used or what figure you are using, it is for any figure that has Morphs and wares clothes. the Point is not on how does it work or with what can I compair it , as you can't compair it with anything that is out there .

the Point is is it Possible for anyone who has the Knoweledge to setup a Py script that is capable to recognize a used dile in the figure , or the changes then transfair these in one Click to the outfit.

as a sample you load a Doll you purchased then in one click the Fallow me will be added Plus any costom morph used right to the Outfit , witch naturally will automaticaly Addapt the Used Outfit to the Figures Form without Pokethrough. you would not need to have any Clothings with unnessesary morphs that makes them to large and cause that Poser cranks , Smaller Files , any Possiple shape will fit all in one click.

Right now you have to first Load the outfit , conform the outfit , apply the Falow Me to the outfit , copy the wished morphs from the pannel of a huuge list to the outfit. so it would be just the shortcut to filter out what diles you have been using on the doll to just copy these , if you where to copy all the morphs from A doll to the outfit for sure it would be to heavy for the Application to handle . a Similar function like Injection Magic has to recognize used diles and filter the unused out .


basicwiz ( ) posted Sat, 22 June 2013 at 4:55 AM

I'm not sure when the "Copy Morphs From..." option was added. Is that new to PP14? At any rate, it seems, indeed, to make Morcloth obsolete, and this script looks like a good tool to automate the conforming/adjustment process.

A very neat tool.

So much for worrying if morph "X" is in the clothing I want to use.


randym77 ( ) posted Sat, 22 June 2013 at 5:06 AM

Yes, it's a new feature in Poser 2014.  At least, that's what he says over at the RDNA thread.

Not sure if it applies to Poser 10.


gate ( ) posted Sat, 22 June 2013 at 5:14 AM

@basicwiz , Copy Morphs from came with Poser 2014 as well as this feature just the process to set it up uses time , it is a shrtcut , and it is only for Poser 2014.

 

for the red Outfit animation I used Morphs like, Bad Elf, Hag, Alice Curvy, GND, Goblin . best for now is to create a costom morph export as Obj then reload to the figure this way you save time filtering out the used dile you whant to use and transfair into the outfit. but as I said it should not be big magic to create a Py button that combines all the commands into one. One step is done , now it is just to take the next step , it would change the way Creators make there oufits , adding allot of posibilities , and they would fit to any shape of the figure without houres of trying to do it manually dile for Dile or even make allot of correction with the paint tool.


3doutlaw ( ) posted Sat, 22 June 2013 at 11:07 PM

Quote - I'm not sure when the "Copy Morphs From..." option was added. Is that new to PP14? At any rate, it seems, indeed, to make Morcloth obsolete...

Agreed.  I wonder if there is any improvement in this feature versus Morphing Clothes?  Would be interested in Comparisons.

Morphing Clothes is great, but when the clothes got complex...you could still tell it was an 'auto-fit', which is no replacement for the modeller making the right fit.


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