This discussion is ridiculous. There are no way in the world you can make a render exactly similar in another package in another render engine. I am really sad that this is not understood. What we are after is to minimize the time and effort, no more.

Then will BB of course take the matter in his hands, and after three days come up with something that is pretty close. That doesn't change a thing as we want something that is practical. Shaders are the icing of the cake, the final glitter. Nothing more. The heavy lifting is done by maps.