Well, I wasn't talking per se about Poser's reputation amongst the CG Elite. You'll find that kind of attitude in all facets of art amongst various factions... "well that's not really art, it's merely illustration." or "yes, but that's just craft." etc., etc.

*"Poser is a program for "ordinary" people. A program you can start making your very own p0rn in after 30 minutes ;)"

Yeah, of course. I totally get that (and, I don't), but find that kind of stuff boring after the initial biological appreciation...even if it's excellently crafted, which most isn't. I mean, unless there are some ideas or emotions happening (art)... Porn is only interesting until orgasm, otherwise, Kinda like watching people eat or some other biological function. I guess if some psychological pathology is a factor it would be different, in any case I'd rather viddy the "real thing" than (let's face it) grotesque cg dolls and their awkward mechanical squirmings... But all of this is way OT.

Don't get me wrong, I think Poser users should use this tool in any manner they find satisfying, whether art is even a consideration or not. I guess, in a way, that's the hidden subtext of my original comment. Time for bed. :)