i made mistakes when i was trying to move the objects from milwom folder into vicky's cloths. once i took out the objs i copied from there into that folder it works now. i dont know if it makes any difference or not but i also took out a texture file that should have been someplace else. it was the studded jeans textures from another purchase i made at renderosity. because the description said that it was for vicky i assumed i should put it in her clothing files and i think it may have corrupted something. anyway, it is working now and i really appreciate everyone's help. i am so new and still trying to learn. i have obj files in the wrong place and things i have downloaded in wrong places. arrrgh anyway thanks again for all the help.