Quote - And yes, the "Average Poser hobbyist" is either not interrested in or simply can't do all the work necessary to produce his/her own photorealistic figures.

And there is nothing wrong with that, because, after all, not having to do it all by yourself and being able to use pre-made content is what Poser is all about, isn't it ?

So where is the "insult" in wanting better "figure-tools" so that even those who are not gifted with the ability to sculpt or rig from scratch can achieve as much realism as they want with a single dial-spin ?

 

Agreed. It's not just that. It's not that the average Poser hobbyist is incapable or too lazy or not gifted enough or lacking in time to do the work, it's also, I expect, that a great many are more interested in producing actual finished RENDERS than in making the component parts. Getting some renders to their final state takes weeks in some instances. If that's the part of CGI you enjoy most, it makes sense to pay others to do what they enjoy the most, if that's creating content.

Quote - But I get it.

Criticising a Poser or DAZ figure for it's technical and artistic shortcomings in this forum is pretty much like telling a mother that her baby is ugly and not like simply suggesting a better quality brush to an artist so he can make better paintings.  :-(
Way too much emotions and knee-jerk reactions.

 

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Quote - Ironically, I'm not really that keen to produce "looks like photographs" kind of renders because I hate long render times. But I decided years ago that I want my figures to at least look more like real humans, regardless of the time and work it would cost me.

I don't regret the journey as I learned a lot, but I still would have rather used someone else's ready-made figures instead, if only that someone would have made them for me.

Exactly. Except I enjoy making pictures far too much, and if I find myself becoming unhappy with Poser, I don't break out a modelling app. I just pull out my camera and play with it for a few months. I may have to do that again. If it's pics of peeps I want, models aren't that much more expensive to hire than Vicky -- and they usually bring their own clothes.

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