dolly, you just played into their hands by saying that you do discuss the freestuff. The problem with the whole thing isn't a conspiracy or elitist idea but that vendors may be discussing (and therefore bashing) freestuff. No one likes to be "talked" about behind their back and I suppose that is the gripe here. You just verified that the vendors do discuss the free stuff... Frankly I think vendors should have their own forum to discuss marketing ideas and such. Keeping it private just keeps "know it alls" who don't sell from giving from their opinions & I suppose that is the reasoning behind it being secret. But it might make those who don't vend feel like "commoners" to a degree. Not important enough to see what is going on. It's a shame if discussions regarding the future of the marketplace are hidden. After all, some people might be considering vending, but if they aren't aware of the changes they may choose not to do so. The general public at 'rosity likes to be informed of changes, and the marketplace is part of 'rosity, so it makes sense that the general, non-vending public would want to know of these changes. Maybe more people would sell here if they better understood what was going on in the store....

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