Woah, relax! I am definitely not saying that people that don't use genitals in their models are weird. That's none of my business. You'd have to explain to me where I said that because I'd apologise instantly for it. Even I will use models without genitals, it saves memory! 

This thread is about making a 3D figure and one of the things is gens. You really don't need to read it if you don't like it, especially if you feel uncomfortable with it. 

Renderotica and Renderosity have slightly different crowds, and I've been with the guys on renderotica for quite a while and I know quite a lot about the preferences there. I've learned a bunch about modelling over there too. And yup, it is definitely more erotica-orientated than over here. That's fine, obviously. 

However, over here, its not as much a big thing. Yet I have learned a whole bunch from discussing modelling with Joepublic and a whole bunch of other folks on this thread. Part of it does include gens. Many interesting points have been raised about textures, UVs, morphing, rigs, marketing etc...

The other thread about 'concern' is damned interesting and also learned from that too, and i'd dare say others learned from it too.

Everything does have its own time and space, and these three threads occupy that. Granted, some of us might have a strong opinion about others, but hopefully that will sort itself out. Its no surprise to me that these subjects get a little heated because there's hesitancy on both sides to really talk about it. One thing, I am definitely not calling you a prude. If there's someone prude it should be me, in real life then. Sex is no big deal for me, but my work does kindof revolve around it. I'm not prude when it comes to talking about it... as you might have noticed hehehe.

It is indeed not a huge deal that DAZ doesn't have genitals, but once someone points it out, no matter in what tone, I think everyone might get a little nervous because at the same time its not a big deal, but still the whole question of abuse lingers between the words. Nobody wants that.

 

 

I'm afraid now it is getting a little over the top, even for me. So lets conclude:

• I am making this figure, and yes it will have gens. This thread was atarted by William-The-Bloody and is fitted my project nicely, so i kindly hijacked it from him (thank you W)
• gens do sometimes cause unrest and I've provided a thread for that
• and I also wanted to know how much in demand such a figure is. I know renderotica's POV, now I  was curious about Renderosity.
• I am not calling anyone prude and what DAZ does with their models is their problem. It might be a little frustrating for some of us, and yes we have expressed them, perhaps in the wrong gallery, and a little too late. Over, done.
• Lets move on.

is that ok? 

PS: can I ask a Mod to remove the links from this thread?

 

Quote - How to deviate from the pattern, just make the damn fogure with built in genitals, It;s your friggin' choice and decision, just like other people get to make their own decision about whether to make a figure with or without or a strap on. 

You don't need the approval of the community or anyone else, and certainly don't need to innundate a 'mixed company' kind of forum with threads about sex and genitals.

You want genitals, great, make them.

I'd like to not have to stop frequenting this forum if I didnlt want to be innundated with sex and genitals talk 24/7. Unlike yours, my life and work doesn't revolve around them, and it's a kind of a thing myself and MANY other people refer to keep a bit more private, because it is a very intimate and personal thing. Not someting I alway want to have on display. It has noting to do with being a prude, I'm anyting bit, I even made genitals and other things  for one of erotic poser marketplaces myself...BUT, I'm not in here starting a number of threads about it or up in the arms because some poser figures dont have them.

Everything has it's own time and a place. Sex and genitals are not acceptable to everyone everywhere. It's sad that some people here can't respect other people's boundaries and social norms, when in a mixed company public place - which is what this forum is.

Sex is not the only thing people are 'funny' about, there are many tings people prefer to discuss with close friends or with a degree of privacy, and not have it forced on them.

Usually I'm one of those people who think it's odd that DAZ and whomever feels the need to NOT have genitals, but I can understand and respect their decision, and even though if I was making a figure it would have built in genitals, it's not such a huge deal. 

With so much talk about genitals, you've already branded your figure as a niche fogure for porn sites only and you haven't even started making it.  You're going to lose the support of those of us who aren't so interested in pushing people to find sex and public nudity more aceptable in wider circles - which is as you may find out, majority of people. Perhaps you've spent so much time in sex industry that you lost pespective of mainstream social norms.

Also, I'm getting little tired of everyone who doesn't walk without their clothes off 24/7 being called a pruce. I bet even you put your clothes on when you go to a grocery store.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."