I don't hate DAZ and I wish them well on the path they have taken, I have just decided I am not going their way.  Like others I credit Daz with getting me into 3D all those years ago and giving me my favorite female character.  So no hate at all we have just stopped talking to each other and I don't visit them anymore.

 

V4 will never be unloved by me we have been working together too long and although I have downloaded Dawn, and she shows potential, it will be a while before that potential matches, if ever, what I have already developed with V4.

 

 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.