Many of you know me as a really big clown in both forums...yes I'm often quite wacky and silly...but the truth is I have personally started my own company and while I don't share that info here (because PAN and my company shall never co-exist in the same sentence OTHER than here haha) I do understand what it is like to have costs. So in that aspect I can understand if selling advertising space here helps keep the bandwidth costs or whatever else down...running a server and stuff IS very costly. However there are some that object to that and prefer the OTHER forum for it's stand against "selling" stuff...that's fine too. Now I don't want a billion posts regarding "OH but they DO sell stuff" cause I don't care! My point is THESE are TWO DIFFERENT FORUMS! ONE caters a bit more openly than the OTHER plain and simple - HOWEVER they both have the same dream...to make poser known and respected throughout the Artistic community. So why should we be wasting time FEUDING over who said this and who said that? WE are WASTING VALUEABLE RESOURCES! I have yet to date to find ANY TWO sites that offer the FREE knowledge that THESE two do! Nudity or Pornography, Sold Ad space or Privitely owned...WHO THE 'ELL CARES!? DO YOU ALL STILL GET TO POST YOUR ART? YES....if not here then over there and if not there then OVER here......THE day someone from either forum says "SORRY NO MORE ART TO BE POSTED" I wonder if you will all feel as if "hey at least I used it while I could" or will you feel like "Damn, wish I'd used it a bit more" ? Continued below -