continued - As for the Body Builder Image - I'm not sure who you meant by "obnoxious self satisfied" post but I do recall many posts being made in there (MANY being MINE) and many opinions being expressed that had NOTHING to do with the topic. By the time I stepped into that post it was on fire and I never DID see the original image. If anyone would like to see my posts...they may do so but my reasons for stepping in were because many of the members began to bash MEN for the woes of the forum and I felt I had to speak my mind. While they argued of teaching our young men to be accepting they didn't realize they were also making them feel guilty for something they hadn't done and as we all know if you "attack" a child...don't expect he/she to like you very much after that. I commented to that effect because I thought the whole arguement was totally misdirected and the guilt being blamed without thought. I personally did NOT at all mind the art work shown...but I also DON'T OWN THE FORUM... PAN~