As far as a guild the standard the guild uses to "grade" products, that will be decided by the guild...So if you want to monitor and add your input to what that standard should be, get involved, everyone is invited...To not join because you dont like some one already involved would be to allow those who are involved to make descisions without your input...Everyone's input is appreciated and should be heard by everyone... This guild should not be about who is who...this guild will be about quality. If we cant all put our past sqabbles that have nothing to do with quality behind us and make a mature decision as a team, then there will end up being a problem...I guess what it boils down to is whats more important to you personally?...Slitting the throat of an enemy or saving the life of a friend, I know my analogy is slightlly extreme, but if you think about it, thats what it boils down to...personally I'd rather save the life of the friend... Personal Note to Jack Never knew you well myself, didnt go rushing off to commune in your defense when all the mess went down, didnt like or dislike you personally, just didnt know enough to care one way or the other...I will say how ever that Diane was the BEST I ever worked with! I would honestlly buy from her personally before I would buy from any other store if she was selling something I needed, she'd be the first place I looked, not just her products, but products approved by Diane, I know how hard she was on me, and so I know that anything she approves is "good quality" to not have some one like Diane in this guild would be a terrible loss, and if your standards jack are like hers, then you'd be a great asset as well! Not having her around to approve my work and the work of others is kinda what made this guild such a must...Sorry not trying to blow smoke up any one's butt here, but I do miss Diane :(...