Quote - But I'll have to disagree, evidence shows DAZ does not learn from the past. DAZ just sees it as a failed attempt and trys again later, Hence $285 for the carrara .5 update. And as you can see it worked. So I have no doubt DAZ will try to, and probibly succeed this time, in charging for Studio. As I said, maybe not Studio5 standard, but defenetly studio5 pro. Of coarse if DAZ has any sence they wont. They will just have Studio 5 and a pro plugins pack, or 2. Maybe "artist" plugins and "pro" plugins. None the less DAZ is being run by pro marketers that could make a profit off a rabbit corpse.

You may be right Stan.

You know, It seems to me giving away DS4.5Pro was one of the smartest things they ever did. It put Genesis and other creative tools in the hands of a lot of people. What stopped me from loading it up on my machine was seeing all the problems people were having.

Quote - When Studio 3 got the figure set up tools it stopped being a sales gimmick for me and finally became a usable tool. I used DS3 a lot, it was an integeral part of my carrara suport team

I bought DS3A when it came out. What made the sale for me was firstly how well DS2.3 worked for me. At the time, I was making my transition to Carrara, but I was straddling the fence. The morph follower (or whatever it was called) was a big attraction to me. I thought it would help me fit clothes from V3 to V4. It didn't really do that. I still don't know how they got a M3 suit onto F3 in the promo for DS3A.

I basically use D|S for setting up my animations. I never use Optitex Dynamic Cloth and I don't do anything to the UV maps. So, even though I have DS3A, I only open DS2.3 and even then just to scan new items into the runtime. Carrara is my main workhorse.

　

Quote - Then we got Studio 4, with genesis it was a game changer. Then DAZ fumbeled the ball. I haven't used studio4 near as much as I did DS3. Since release I have seen no improvements in genesis or autofit, which was what made studio4 the game changer. Yes Studio 4 has gotten updates; for free, but I don't see where they have improved what I used studio for. I used studio 4 for what wasn't in carrara for using genesis. Mostly the selectable uvmapping. Now I was quite happy when C8.5b got the update so DUF worked to get dynamic clothing sims from studio to carrara for staging. Problem is something happen to the optitex dynaimc sim and the dynamic clothing does not work nearly as well as it did in DS3. I think I was up to 24-28 trys and still nothing usable in the end.

I have said it before (and had my posts deleted when others started supporting my comments) and I'll say it again. Genesis is an interesting piece of technology, but it was a step made way too soon. We should have had a V5 that was at the least a V4 with all the fixes (Many of which can be bought at Rendo) and some other innovations that could have been run natively to DS and Carrara. I twould have created less confusion and help avoid the split in the market we are now dealing with. DAZ would have made good money on the improved figure from clothing, poses. etc.

Also, DAZ could have tested it's weight mapping by creating a Weight Mapped Vicky, like the one for Poser.

We should just NOW be getting Genesis 1. This way they could have taken their time and gotten it right instead of having to contend with angry people whose autofits didn't work, etc. They might have been able to avoid the costly Poser/Daz split that happened or at least made the split less painful.

Quote - It seems DAZ has turned to PAs to provide work arounds for the issues in autofit and genesis, then charging us for said work arounds. So why fix the issues when people will pay for a work around. Even the next step in genesis, one that fixes many of the issues with genesis, was done by a PA, not DAZ. There are morphs out now that are workarounds for the issues with autofit, and DAZ is charging you for them, rather then fixing autofit. There is no profit in fixing the issues, there is a profit in selling you the workarounds. See my tirade on the carraracafe about encouraging incompatence.

That does seem like a dodgy business practise. The CarraraCafe is kind of hard for me to navigate from this computer. I'll have to look at your tirad later.

Quote - Thanks for way over pricing the C8.5 update DAZ, you have saved me money I can spend elsewhere. As in Lisa is my favorite organics artest. I have a lot of lisa's botanicals, and want more, but she isn't at DAZ now. One of the things I see lacking in many pitures, and I usually add as details to an outdoor scene, is birds. Ken isn't with DAZ any more ether; and I want his shore birds pack. Hell if Stefan and Jack took thier content out of DAZ, I'd have little reason to shop there; at least for big ticket items. Seems most everything else at DAZ I might want is in the $3 bin.

I like Lisa's stuff, but don't use it very often (hard to believe she's gone). I don't have Ken's birds. I'm not even sure if they work in Carrara or not.

Stefan and Jack are two I put to work often. Nightshift, GoFigure, Posermocap, DzFire and a handful of others are my reason for being there these days. I hope they don't lose anymore vendors.

I like the $2 bin stuff, but they really screwed that whole thing up with the "value" category where price goes up after a couple weeks. It didn't force me to spend more money. It forces me to decide whether I want something now or let it go forever. A lot of us came out against this bad move, but we were shouted down by the cheerleaders and moderated into submission.

Quote - What can I say. I'm an insomniac. In 5 days I managed to get a bit less then 20 hours of sleep; 16-18. Finally got a good solid 5 lastnight, so feeling good today.

You too? Yeah, insomnia is a bitch. I got a dodgy 3 hours last night, so I'm trying to figure out how to steal some energy from Dartanbeck.