So not true Helen. It was a fact, I have no reason to believe that this person would lie. They sell here at Renderosity and do quite well in fact. I didn't say that they decided not to do it, and I didn't say that it was stated to them in the vendor forum either. So, before you start calling people liars perhaps you should get the the full and complete story before you post about something that you know nothing about. It didn't happen to you, but it did happen to someone that you know and have spoken very highly of yourself. You have no clue as to what each individual vendor goes through in private. I would be more then happy to discuss the circumstances with you, but not in a public forum. I do not lie, I have no reason or motive to. I am a customer here as well as a member and have on more then one occasion purchased your products..but you know what? After what you just said, I think you've just lost a customer. Not that you would care anyway, but if you treat me like this in the forum, if I have a complaint or a question about your products, how are you going to treat me then?