Victoria 2 is in and of herself an 128 pack of Crayolas. I was afraid that the creators of this product would drop by this thread. I was really counting on the replies of happy or unhappy or ambivalent customers. Now that dcort has dropped by, people might be afraid to voice their true opinions for fear of hurting feelings. That is not to suggest that everyone has a bad opinion. So, discounting the words of the creator and the rather "Me too" reply of dwilmes, things seem to be on the up and up :) What I'm interested in most specifically is the ability to raise the arms over the head without the deformity that DAZ Models, Vicky included, create in the shoulder/armpit area. Also, how do the thighs and hip joints look when the legs are bent at a 90 deg. Angle? -WTB