It's interesting that now i've dealt with the Armpit Problem with the DAZ models, i now see it on nearly every CGI person i see on TV, too. Everyone's figure's shoulders seem to start below their deltoids... some kind of convention in mesh building, perhaps? Putting an extra body part in just to take care of the armpit and shoulders would probably play havoc with all our clothing meshes... but would sure be more realistic. ;^)