Ah one more thing Styxx, when you say this: " i'm sorry you've lost that position, because you have always tried to help people... but i will trust the admin's decisions until and unless every aspect is revealed." Does this mean that you would like me to post to someplace or another all the documents that do reveal everything, totally raw and unedited and captured by Adobe Acrobat? Indeed, it would be clearer to you then. I have held back my hand on doing so, other than to issue a warning to this community, at the cost of my job, that there is a person inside the administration, JeffH, who has ill will toward anyone who would become involved in this guild, and has said so, and has even stated his wish to ban these people. This is true, he said so in front of many many witnesses, twice. Anyone who is telling you it did not happen is lying to you. For revealing the danger those of us who participate in this guild are in, they say I have violated admin privacy and moderator guidelines. You see, administrators are allowed to threaten you in private, but no one is allowed to tell you that you are being threatened :)