I take it your complaint is with the arm bending? Dina and Victoria bend much better if you split the difference in an upward bend between the collar and shoulder. The illustrations are images exported directly from Poser, no postwork, no textures. As you can see, Victoria does not perform any better when you don't bend the collar and only bend the arm. This is a problem area with any Poser figure. The human shoulder has an enormous range of motion and Poser's joint setup has limitations. And please, spare me the drama BS. No one at DSI is going to hate anyone for not liking Dina. As if we have nothing better to do. I am suspicious, though, of user names that I've never seen anywhere on this site before suddenly showing up just to rebut a post about Dina.