I'm not bashing Vicki here, but posting some images done in the same "default" poses to show that virtually any model is not going to look very good this way. If you want to truly get an idea of what can be done with Dina, please see the images in the galleries on various sites and look at the ads on Renderotica or theGRC. The ad images were done with no postwork whatsoever except on the hair. Bill, if your friend is not happy with their purchase, I do wish they would contact me. DTHUREGRIF@aol.com And there is absolutely no reason for them to be afraid to post here themselves. Renderosity has no stake in this model.