I had a thread going below where I was looking for this sort of discussion. Some of the fish's points seem to be valid, but most are not. When I bought Vicky I didn't by her for what she could do in default, but what would eventually come. When you buy a model, you're really buying potential. IT is very nice to hear that clothing models for Dina will include her available body morphs! DAZ always drops the ball on that. Certainly with all those polygons the limits are nonexistant to what can be done with this model, and rather then just being made by one individual, this seems to be a true team effort and can be trusted to be maintained, supported, and continued if met with much success. Such a model will certainly prove itself to be useful in time. I will definately be getting this model on the basis of having seen the wire mesh alone. Nice work, DSI! -WTB